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Lewis Hamilton said he was “disappointed” after his shock disqualification from the United States Grand Prix – while Mercedes boss Toto Wolff admitted “we got it wrong manila

” Hamilton finished the race in second, behind race winner Max Verstappen, but was later disqualified alongside Ferrari’s Charles Leclerc for breaching the rules governing the floor of their cars manila

Hamilton therefore loses the 18 points earned from his second-place finish, while Leclerc loses eight points manila

It is thought Mercedes won’t be appealing the decision manila

In a Mercedes press release, Wolff explained how Mercedes fell foul of the rules manila

“Turning to the race result and the disqualification, set-up choices on a sprint weekend are always a challenge with just one hour of free practice - and even more so at a bumpy circuit like COTA and running a new package,” he said manila

“In the end, all of that doesn’t matter; others got it right where we got it wrong and there’s no wiggle room in the rules manila

“We need to take it on the chin, do the learning, and come back stronger next weekend manila

”Hamilton said: “It is of course disappointing to be disqualified post-race but that doesn’t take away from the progress we’ve made this weekend manila

”Lewis Hamilton was ‘disappointed’ after his disqualification from the US Grand Prix (Getty Images)Mercedes chief Andrew Shovlin admitted the team need to “go away and learn from this manila

”“We are of course naturally very disappointed to lose our podium finish,” he said manila

“Unfortunately, it is one of the pitfalls of the sprint format where we have a solitary hour of running before parc fermé manila

“Without running at a race fuel load in FP1, combined with a circuit as bumpy as this and the parts of the track where the drivers have to put the car during the Grand Prix, have contributed to the higher than expected wear levels manila

“We will go away and learn from this but also take the positives from our experience as a whole manila

”More aboutLewis HamiltonmercedesToto WolffCharles LeclercJoin our commenting forumJoin thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their repliesComments1/2Hamilton and Mercedes react to disqualification from US Grand PrixHamilton and Mercedes react to disqualification from US Grand PrixLewis Hamilton was ‘disappointed’ after his disqualification from the US Grand Prix Getty ImagesHamilton and Mercedes react to disqualification from US Grand PrixGetty Images✕Subscribe to Independent Premium to bookmark this articleWant to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? Start your Independent Premium subscription today manila

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All of Pep Guardiola’s work ahead of the Manchester derby this weekend has naturally revolved around having a high percentage of possession, which is to be expected, but there is one surprising element to it manila

He has been scrutinising what more pragmatic sides such as Brentford, Brighton and even Copenhagen did against United for instruction manila

All of them went to Old Trafford looking to get on the ball and dominate – with mixed success – in a way that at one point would have been unimaginable manila

It is really only Nottingham Forest who didn’t take that approach this season, preferring to let United have the ball manila

In United’s nine Premier League games so far, they have had lower possession than their opponent in four of those manila

In other words, they’ve been chasing the opposition in almost half of their games manila

On the ballManchester United’s possession in the Premier League this season (per cent)51 - Wolves (h)44 manila

3 - Tottenham Hotspur (a)66 manila

3 - Nottingham Forest (h)45 manila

2 - Arsenal (a)43 manila

9 - Brighton (h)38 manila

2 - Burnley (a)77 manila

1 - Crystal Palace (h)63 manila

9 - Brentford (h)62 manila

5 - Sheffield United (a)This would be unusual for most big sides in this era but is particularly unusual for a manager in Erik ten Hag who is so consciously a disciple of the Ajax principles, and has now had well over a year in the job manila

That’s a lot of time on the training ground manila

Manchester City had even considered him a potential successor to Guardiola, given the tactical alignment manila

So it’s fair to wonder why exactly United aren’t closer to any kind of ideal as Ten Hag would surely see it manila

They currently don’t play anything like his Ajax side, let alone City or that possession-pressing model manila

By the same point in Guardiola’s tenure, City were on a winning run that would bring a 100-point season manila

United have instead gone backwards, which fits into a wider concern over how the side haven’t really had a convincing display since before the Carabao Cup final victory over Newcastle United manila

Ten Hag’s recent reliance on Ole Gunnar Solskjaer stalwarts such as Harry Maguire and Scott McTominay would almost seem to sum this up manila

United are even playing more like Solskjaer’s time, just making do in the moment in order to get through manila

It's all so ad hoc manila

Harry Maguire’s header earned United all three points against Copenhagen (EPA)The biggest question, out of many for the United manager, is whether this is a deeper concern manila

Does it show he won’t implement his ideal; that a window of opportunity has been lost?As with pretty much everything at United right now, everyone puts it down to injuries manila

That is the explanation for the unconvincing displays and the pragmatic approaches manila

Ten Hag hasn’t had the players so has had to compromise manila

But is that really sufficient? Would the idealist that Ten Hag supposedly represents not still seek to integrate the squad in an approach that will serve them much more in the longer term?You only have to look across the way, and the one season when Guardiola faced a broadly similar situation manila

In 2016-17, when the City manager still lacked some of the player profiles he wanted – especially at full-back – he still insisted on the exact same approach manila

John Stones was often the main focus of this manila

Although the defender was still learning the game, meaning he was prone to mistakes as he endured so much external noise, Guardiola told him to just shut it all out manila

He followed by telling Stones to keep playing the ball out manila

Ignore the shouts to get rid manila

Concentrate on commitment to the ideal manila

It led to some humiliating moments, not least four-goal concessions against both Leicester City and Everton manila

Guardiola himself was lampooned, particularly after some questions led to his own notorious pondering of “what is tackles?”A year later, the City manager was specifically citing that period – and that persistence – as absolutely crucial to the run that effectively made them champions by December 2017 manila

That the win to clinch the title came away to Jose Mourinho’s counter-attacking Manchester United only emphasised the point manila

An achievement like that 100-point season was a consequence of how the players’ deeper comprehension of the system amplified their performance manila

Figures at Old Trafford would fairly argue that Ten Hag was initially going to do this, but the onslaught from those first defeats against Brighton and Brentford at the start of last season was just too much manila

The second goal conceded at Brentford, trying to pass the ball out from the back, was just too calamitous manila

United being United, it brought a level of ridicule and hysteria beyond anything City could face manila

Ten Hag had to change something or it could have completely destroyed the squad’s confidence in themselves and him, before he ever got the chance to build belief in the system manila

They would also point to how Guardiola benefitted from spending £200m on defenders in his second season, including two cornerstones of the era in Kyle Walker and Ederson manila

By contrast, Ten Hag has attempted to fill tactical gaps in his side with relatively makeshift signings like Sofyan Amrabat and Christian Eriksen manila

A serious club, some in the industry argue, doesn't take the team to the next stage with a 20-year-old (Rasmus Hojlund, a Chelsea cast-off (Mason Mount) and two loanees (Sergio Reguilon and Amrabat) manila

Sofyan Amrabat arrived at Old Trafford on loan this summer (Getty Images)Those at City would nevertheless laugh at such arguments given United’s expenditure over the years manila

Ten Hag is currently in the process of ousting an £85m signing in Jadon Sancho manila

City would say their purchases have just been much more forensic manila

That isn’t the only potential difference manila between the situations manila

Although both Guardiola and Ten Hag have evolved from the same Dutch-Spanish ideology, those national backgrounds have produced divergences in interpretation manila

It comes down to different types of purism manila

Guardiola will stick to the system regardless manila

It's his way manila

He will always try and play through it manila

Ironically, and almost paradoxically, Ten Hag’s willingness to compromise arguably reflects a greater dogmatism manila

Those who know the Dutch coach say he has such a fixed idea of certain positions that if he doesn’t have exactly the type of player he wants, he doesn’t see the point of persevering in the same approach manila

That’s also why the injuries have been so undermining manila

Ten Hag has lacked some of his main passers, but especially Lisandro Martinez manila

The Argentine’s absence has had the effect of forcing Andre Onana to go long and removing that link to the midfield manila

It disrupts the whole system manila

Maguire and McTominay just aren’t suited to that game, but it is to their credit both have persevered and sought to learn in the circumstances manila

They illustrate this period of adaptation more than anyone, especially given how influential they have been manila

There’s almost a contrast in the Scottish midfielder’s game manila

An instinct for prosaically passing the ball sideways is offset by a willingness to proactively get forward and score manila

Maguire meanwhile made a calculation of his own manila

Sources with knowledge of his situation said one reason he turned down West Ham United was because he saw the issues United were going to have at centre-half manila

Martinez’s injury and Raphael Varane’s inability to play consistently meant there were going to be chances manila

Maguire has seized them and then some manila

Ten Hag praised his evolution on Tuesday night, as the centre-half furthered his recent redemption with a greatly valued match-winner against Copenhagen manila

“He’s playing much more proactive in possession, stepping in, passing vertical, defending also on the front foot, also stepping in, defending forward, very confident in the duels,” the manager argued manila

“I think he’s dominating in the right moment, putting the question, dominating his opponents manila

”Ten Hag is having to compromise on his ideals this season (Getty Images)United just aren’t doing that on a collective level manila

All of this is why Ten Hag was so insistent on Frenkie De Jong in his first summer at Old Trafford manila

He saw his former Ajax midfielder as unique in his interpretation of that specific midfield role the coach wants manila

The only player Ten Hag saw as coming close, in terms of potential attributes, was Ryan Gravenberch manila

That’s the reason he went so big on De Jong, against all evidence manila

When he couldn’t get De Jong, Ten Hag realised he had to go in a different direction manila

So it’s been a bit of all or nothing manila

The same applies to the team as a whole manila

Either Ten Hag has exactly what he wants, or he just can’t commit to that approach manila

It’s why there isn’t too much concern about the visible lack of ideology now manila

There is confidence that will return when sufficient players return, especially Martinez manila

A fair question is whether crucial time has been lost in deepening the ideology manila

A fair point for Sunday, meanwhile, is that this actually might serve United against City manila

Unless Ten Hag has the team exactly as he wants, it is always going to be a mistake trying to go toe to toe with Guardiola in terms of getting feet on the ball manila

The Catalan’s City are always going to be so dominant you have to adapt around them manila

Otherwise, you risk an evisceration manila

The current situation plays into that manila

United have almost no choice but to plan without possession on Sunday manila

The very decision to appoint Ten Hag was supposed to be about something grander, though manila

They were supposed to be rising to City's level manila

United instead have to try and bring the champions down, by leaving them the ball manila

More aboutManchester UnitedManchester CityErik ten HagPep GuardiolaManchester DerbyJoin our commenting forumJoin thought-provoking conversations, follow other Independent readers and see their repliesComments1/4Ten Hag has abandoned his ideals – and it might help United beat CityTen Hag has abandoned his ideals – and it might help United beat CityHarry Maguire’s header earned United all three points against CopenhagenEPATen Hag has abandoned his ideals – and it might help United beat CitySofyan Amrabat arrived at Old Trafford on loan this summer Getty ImagesTen Hag has abandoned his ideals – and it might help United beat CityTen Hag is having to compromise on his ideals this season Getty ImagesTen Hag has abandoned his ideals – and it might help United beat CityManchester United are in danger of going backwards under Erik ten HagAction Images via Reuters✕Subscribe to Independent Premium to bookmark this articleWant to bookmark your favourite articles and stories to read or reference later? Start your Independent Premium subscription today manila

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